IACGMOOH 2018 Discussion Thread

With X Factor looking like a foregone conclusion, our hardy commenters have the celebrity jungle exploits to keep them occupied in the run-up to Christmas. Will Harry Redknapp manage his way to reality TV success? Or can Fleur East go one better than her X Factor second? Let us know your thoughts below as it unfolds.

151 comments to IACGMOOH 2018 Discussion Thread

  • Nick

    Grabbed the 20/1 (e/w) on Fleur earlier today, which seemed value. likeable, young (ish!) sure she will get stuck in…but not into the bugs as she’s a vegan 😉

  • Jessica Hamby

    The thing about Fleur is that she’s not as high-profile as some of the others so she’s not an obvious candidate for attention. Unless she gets involved in some way she’ll disappear. She looks great but being eye-candy will only get you bikini and background shots.

    She’ll need to be part of conversations (or else become an ersatz presenter/narrator like Scarlett Moffatt but surely they won’t be doing that for anyone this year).

    Good odds though, which always appeals to me, and she ticks the young, female and reality show boxes which worked for the last three winners.

  • James

    I don’t think she’ll win, but I think Anne will do very well. The Chase is very popular and she’s very likeable. She comes across as the type that will get stuck in and won’t take any messing from anyone.

    • Jessica Hamby

      Agree about Anne, but a few days without food can bring out the worst in a person and Anne does look partial to a pie.

      It’s funny what can swing it for a person. I thought David Haye or Ashley Roberts would win the year Charlie Brooks won. I remember she missed out on meeting with her daughter and made a big deal of it, lots of tears. She was very nice but didn’t look like winning material until then, when she seemed to get a sympathy boost (plus Mark Wright said he thought people should favour a Brit over an American but I don’t know how much difference that would have made).

      At this stage, before everything’s started, Fleur looks a good each way bet but until the personalities come out it’s hard to say.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Who dressed Holly? She looks like a prostitute at her favourite client’s funeral.

    There’s something about Nick knowles’ smile that looks insincere to me. I don’t know anything about him except what you see on tv but I’m hoping he’s a total bitch under the tv grin and it all comes out once the charm offensive is over.

  • Jessica Hamby

    I don’t know how significant it is but James McVey has 1.77 million followers on twitter and a whole lot of fan accounts.


  • Jessica Hamby

    Just me then.

    Oh well… It is a bit boring. Thank God I bought a Lidl Ukulele. I’ll be a virtuoso by the time this series finishes.

  • Jessica Hamby

    So how do you deseed your pomegranates?

    I’ve got my own technique but I’d prefer one that doesn’t end up with me getting wet and messy.

  • Simon

    I was thinking Harry Redknapp could do well. But then he could well be the sort of person who won’t take any crap from anyone. Having to deal with young football players. I think you have to be very easy going to win, like Stacey Soloman and Scarlett Moffat for example

  • Jessica Hamby

    John, Harry and Anne seem to be most noticeable so far. James has become almost invisible, lost in the team of women.

  • Phil smith

    Great call on fleur Jessica managed to get on at 24 on betfair into 8.6 after one night! Emily atack seems to be popular and a good sense of humour but fleur has come across really well !

    • Jessica Hamby

      You know me and my big odds Phil. Always nice when you’re on and the price falls like that. 🙂

      I know it’s early but I’ll add that at the moment I can’t see James McVey making the final, never mind winning it. He might have enough fans to get him into the last 5 or 6 but right now he’s invisible in that team.

      Emily does look good, and doing trials keeps you in the public eye. If she gives good scream and also comes back with stars she’ll set herself up nicely – maybe even get herself more trials. The public loves to see a journey. That could be Fleur’s problem. If she seems to find it too easy the public won’t get invested in her and she’ll miss out, like David Haye.

  • LiamH

    Agree with Simon – I saw Harry roll his eyes a couple of times tonight at others’ comments. Can’t see him not kicking off before too long. Strong start from Emily although I’m a bit worried she is a ‘formula’ winner and potentially a bit too much like Scarlett etc. Could mad old coot Noel Edmonds be this year’s Tony Blackburn?

  • Phil

    There’s a lot of love for Anne on Twitter tonight. I don’t think Fleur is someone that people necessarily connect with.

    • Jessica Hamby

      Anyone who bet on Fleur at 24 and laid her at 8 has already made money. She’ll probably shorten more before the end.

      The older women tend to go early, especially if they’ve got big personalities. I think that puts Rita in a bit of danger too. It’s not fair but it’s what usually happens.

      No eliminations till next week so there’s plenty of time for people to get fed up with tears and medical exemptions. She might go on and win it but if Harry can keep his geniality I think he’s more likely to win than she is.

      Wait until their brains start missing the salt, sugar, fat and alcohol from their customary diets and the stimulation from their customary lives. For some of them it will be like painful withdrawal symptoms. Coupled with the boredom and the close proximity, that’s when the flare-ups and the bitchiness happen.

      I don’t think Anne’s going to like it very much. She might not be obnoxious but if today was anything to go by she’s going to struggle.

  • Tom

    Could this be another moment where everybody bets on Fleur, only for her to come second? 😉

  • CornishGirl

    My initial thought from last night was that Anne seemed to have an awful lot of support online. I know she’s the ‘older woman’ but I think her struggle in there with autism will add a new dimension which will really get people rooting for her. It feels very ‘now’ for some reason.

    I’ll be interested to see how she gets on in the trials, if she’s all guns blazing with a wicked sense of humour she’ll do well, think Carol Thatcher.

    Think Fleur will do really well too but it depends if her ‘journey’ offers enough light and shade. GBP don’t always like it when people appear to find it too easy.

    Barrowman had me howling last night – but will it start to grate and will the showbiz mask slip?

    Also I think we may have an unknown quantity in the late arrivals, it’s traditionally two right? Who’s going in with Noel? Vicky went in late and won…

    • Jessica Hamby

      I wonder if the real reason she was crying is because she sank the boat and then got exempted from the trial. I’m sure the autism didn’t help but she had a pretty big helping of humiliation to swallow anyway.

      I’m not sure whether I want her to stay or go. Three weeks of watching a woman whom I like and respect have a nervous breakdown is not really my idea of entertainment.

    • Jessica Hamby

      I think Barrowman will suffer from early favourite syndrome and fall by the wayside.

      Scarlett Moffatt might have been favourite from the beginning but I don’t think anyone saw Carl Fogerty, Vicky Pattinson or last year’s person as winners. Remember Jimmy Bullard and Joey Essex?

      There are a lot of wannabe alphas in that camp – Barrowman, Knowles, Redknapp and Rita – plus there’s Noel Edmonds to come. Will they get on? Will they clash? Will they make little alliances and then try to dominate the others? This one looks like it has the potential to be quite fiery.

  • CornishGirl

    I thought the tears were in the evening before the trial exemption? I didn’t read the boat sinking as being her fault either, there were a few in there when it went. They just had no technique.

    It was awful seeing her upset but I think the fact they’d been up for 20 hours, done all that physical work and they arrived at that ‘camp’ would be enough to tip a lot of people.

    I hope tonight we see her looking stronger.

    Certainly a very hard one to call. I did call Vicki from entrance but I know many didn’t. There been a few surprises (Charlie Brooks?!) and it’s hardly ever clear cut from the start, bar last year!

    I prefer it like that – makes for a much more entertaining watch!

    I don’t think the runners and riders will make themselves known for a few days yet. The value is almost certainly in e/w right now.

  • Joe C

    I’m new to this reality betting business. What a great find this site is!
    Ok, we’re on James and Emily at 8/1 each and Fleur at 17.5 on the exchange. I’m nervous about Barrowman and his potential armies of middle aged women though :L Not sure whether to cover him at 6/1 for stakes back. Anyone got any thoughts? A few twitter threads that caught my eye had him as annoying rather than likeable though.
    I’d be worried about Anne because she seems well supported but don’t see her lasting the distance. When was the last time anyone exempted from a lot of trials did well?

  • Joe C

    Ta James. Would you say that’s an outlier or is it relatively common?

  • Doyley

    I think Harry at 11 on the exchange (was 14) is excellent value. Has the potential to be the funniest in there. A quick twitter search shows that nearly everyone who watched last night is liking him and this includes a lot of girls too which I initially thought he may have struggled to win votes from. Let’s see.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Forty minutes gone and Malique hasn’t spoken yet. Has he even been in the background?

  • Joe C

    I didn’t watch it last night. Did James say he hated The Queen or something?! And did Harry punch him for it?

  • Phil smith

    Lol joe! Harry told a couple of stories and had a cold shower I think the market has got a bit giddy! Emily did a great job of the trial and drifted 4 out to 6 which seems weird to me!

  • Andy

    Hi Phil
    I suspect the drift of Emily’s price was to do with the lack of humour thoughout the trial, I accept the girl was probably terrified but Toff, Scarlett and Vicky in particular would have been making viewers smile with jokes throughout, Emily did brighten up once the task was over and asking about the snakes health was a positive.
    I think viewers prefer a little comedy and that was the reason Vicky wiped the floor with Ferne a couple of years ago even though Ferne was excellent in the trials.
    The market is moving Harry’s way for this reason only (Humour)

  • Jessica Hamby

    If things carry on the way they are then James could go out second.

    Malique is interesting. He’s likely to be voted to do a trial as soon as he becomes eligible because he’s a screamer. He’s either a journey or a screaming disaster waiting to happen. Either way he could get longevity out of it. Given his long odds he might be worth an investment in case he shortens.

  • Dazzle

    Fleur looks like this year’s narrator. She’s definitely looking to be in the final. I’m not sure the public will take to her enough for her to win though. Harry is this year’s Stanley Johnson, I doubt he will win.

  • Stoney

    Surprised to see Anne drift. If she stays she must be the most likely winner.

    • Jessica Hamby

      Redknapp now at 5/2. Is there a football supporter block vote or something that everyone knows about except us?

      • Stoney

        Football fans and particularly Westham fans like myself know all about Harry Redknapp. One of the most dodgy characters the game has ever seen. Stabbed his best mate in the back to get the Westham job. Constant dodgy deals over the years. Relentless back handers. Exactly why he didn’t get the England job. But he’s coming across well so far on the show. A master of the chat.

    • Jessica Hamby

      Anne’s fragility might start to wear on some voters before the end if she stays like this. If she manages to get a sense of stability, makes a few jokes and starts pitching in (as well as she can) then she’s a shoo-in.

  • Phil smith

    Nick knowles has absolutely bolted up the betting market 20 into 9 for giving Anne his pillow ! The fluctuations are insane for this market!

  • Stoney

    Hes also just gone number 1 in the itunes chart. Which shows how little the UK people care about the X factor contestants. Dont think anyones even cracked the top 10 yet. And people rave about Dalton as if hes some sort of superstar lol.
    Ive backed Nick for the win. Hes only going to shorten from this point.

    • Stoney

      Nick is ticking along just nicely. Think he should be a little shorter in the odds to be honest.

      • Jessica Hamby

        He’s coming across well (although he’s not my cup of tea). My worry for him is that for the last few years the leader types haven’t won.

        Carl Fogerty and Kian Egan in 2014 and 2013 probably fall into that category but they are a-typical.

      • Jessica Hamby

        Nick was described as “desperate to win” by a guest on the spin-off show. No idea how many of the audience concur but (as said above) he’s not my cup of tea.

  • Jessica Hamby

    The fluctuations don’t mean anything imo. It’s so early that the market is just running with whatever happened yesterday. Emily was strong favourite after she did the trial. Nick’s shortened after giving Anne his pillow. John’s shortened because he’s doing a trial. Anne shortened after her original meltdown.

    They’re all going up and down like yo-yos.

    If Nick has a tantrum tomorrow he’ll go out to 33s. If James or Rita smash a trial and give Anne a jelly baby they’ll be joint favourite. The market is volatile because the market hasn’t got a clue.

    Don’t forget – it only started on Sunday. There are 3 weeks to go. Noel Edmonds is coming in tonight. No idea what effect he might have on the camp and the market.

    Comments on twitter are the not particularly germane to the final result either. They focus on whatever the latest hot topic is. They twitterarti are a self-selected group of attention seekers who mostly tweet whatever they think will get them a response. The majority of viewers and voters don’t tweet about it.

    Keep your heads folks.

  • Jessica Hamby

    The people getting the most screen time appear to be Harry, John, Anne and Fleur.

    Emily (trial) and Nick (Biffy Clyro and pillow) have had moments.

    Malique looks like he could be tucker trial gold but needs to be picked to do one.

    James looked more interesting in the trial yesterday. I think he’ll be less inhibited in the larger group (and out from under Rita’s shadow).

    Sair and Rita look dead in the water imo.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Watching John’s odds dropping as he does the trial is fascinating.

    Holly’s in double denim. Not sure whether I like it or not.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Inconclusive episode from the perspective of sofabettors (imo obv).

    John’s gone favorite again, Emily’s gone back up to 2nd favourite. Nick has joined the group of five contenders (John, Harry, Anne, Fleur, Emily).

    Rita, Sair and Malique look increasingly irrelevant (as far as the competition is concerned). James is more of a contender than those three but still out of it. He’s a bit dull for a pop/rock star. Perhaps he’s just a musician.

    The facade of politeness looks like it’s wearing a bit thin for some of them. Noel arriving tomorrow and being put in charge could stir things up.

    No significant moves. Plenty of hints and possibilities

  • Phil smith

    I’ve just started opposing Barrowman at 3.5 on the exchange! My reasoning is the rest of the field needs to be accounted for so how much lower can he go at this early stage! Everyone is doing the trial tonight so definitely a chance of more fluctuations in the market! Also Barrowman seemed to find the trial all to easy so perhaps the public might switch horses and start voting for others on forthcoming trials! Maybe I’m misreading things though ‍♂️

    • Jessica Hamby

      I don’t understand why the market likes him so much. Yesterday it was Harry and Fleur. The day before it was Emily and Anne. Now Anne’s out beyond Noel and he’s not even in there yet.

      If Anne keeps public sympathy and the kindness of the camp allows her to be her best self, it’s hard to see anyone else winning. And if anyone gets impatient with her they might as well drop kick an exploding puppy into a maternity ward. Her biggest danger is if she appears to be arrogant, to be complacent or to be taking people for granted.

      Mind you, three weeks is a long time in IACGMOOH.

    • Jessica Hamby

      Odds on Malique and Sair (especially Sair) are very long. I know it’s for good reason – they’re the outsiders. I just wonder (perhaps it’s more like blind hope) if the trial tonight and/or Noel’s arrival might be stir things up enough to see them change.

  • Jessica hamby

    The new guy comes in and lords it over everyone.

    John’s the first one to crack.

    This is going to be fun.

    Noel’s been brought in to stir things up and boy does he know it.

  • Tomboy

    So Holly thinks the winner is obvious. Assume she thinks it’s Harry. I’m not so sure

  • LiamH

    Lovely stuff from Harry tonight but it’s hard to believe he will have another show be as well edited for him as that one was. Got to be a lay now at 2.9 surely?

  • Jessica Hamby

    Odds have gone a bit crazy again. Anne and Fleur are out of contention according to the market, and the big four are Harry, Emily, John and Nick.

    You can’t even get 2/1 on Harry at the moment and we’ve not even reached the end of the first week.

  • Alan

    I would be surprised if Harry won. Boredom will surely start to set in and he will start to get irritable. Whilst being a cheeky chappy you don’t spend that amount of time in football management without the ability to be a right @#$&. I’ve read a couple of footballers autobiographies lately that paint Harry in a suprisingly unflattering light.

    I think TPTB have chosen the cast brilliantly this year in that there are a number of characters who are generally good humoured and entertaining but who can also be volatile and potentially turn nasty. And in Noel Edmonds they have found someone who is more than happy to throw himself into the role of emporer and lord it over the rest. There will be tantrums and tears for sure.

    • Jessica Hamby

      Footballer people are generally @#$&s. Jimmy Bullard did the same thing, presenting himself as a cheeky chappy with a soul made from fluffy bunnies, but the masked slipped.

    • Jessica Hamby

      Football people are generally @#$&s. Jimmy Bullard did the same thing, presenting himself as a cheeky chappy with a soul made from fluffy bunnies, but the masked slipped.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Holly looks fabulous tonight. Lovely dress.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Odds’ll be shifting again tonight after that trial. Watch Malique drop like a stone. 🙂

  • Jessica Hamby

    Nick and Harry are running away with it at the moment imo. Still a long way to go but so far they’re streets ahead of everyone else.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Harry rapidly approaching evens. Nick, Emily and John all around 6/1.

    Malique and Rita have fallen slightly, but not enough to get excited about.

  • Tomboy

    Can’t touch Harry at evens. Can’t help but think he is a risk say something inappropriate.

    Anne 20/1 looks value. John at 9s also

  • Alan

    I think Anne is definitely worth a punt at those odds. Of all the contestants she has the potential to have a journey and who’s to say the producers aren’t saving that up for the second half of the series. I wouldnt want her to be getting too much screen time at this point.

  • Jessica Hamby

    I’m calling it for Harry.

    Unless he does something really daft he’s won it. There’s a big trial tonight – eating sheep brains and squeezing juice out of fish eyeballs with your teeth before drinking said juice (it’s like an undergraduate dare). If he makes a good fist of that we might as well all give up and just enjoy the show.

    Everyone else will be playing for places.

    • Jessica Hamby

      He did have that moment when he started offering people £1,000 (then £5,000) during that game of quoits. If he starts bragging about his money then he’ll lose support but surely he can’t be that stupid. I doubt he’s the richest person in there anymore, now Noel’s arrived.

  • Jessica Hamby

    I don’t find this entertaining. Instead I find myself thinking that if this is the most popular entertainment in the country on a Saturday night then it’s no wonder the country has gone to shit.

    Two 70 year old men holding worms and cockroaches in their mouths and then chewing fish eyeballs ffs.

    It’s what I’d expect from a rugby club tour or a Bullingdon Club dinner.

  • Stoney

    Im calling Nick the winner. Hes the one thats quietly going about his business.

    • Jessica Hamby

      I’m calling confirmation bias.

      • Stoney

        Obviously, seeing as I back my instincts.
        Second favourite with bookies says hes in with a shot.

        • Jessica Hamby

          Stoney, I love and respect you but the odds don’t really support you.

          The favourite is odds on and the second favourite is 6/1. John and Emily are lot closer to Nick in the betting than Nick is to Harry. The bookies think he’s in with a shot at second.

          I hope they release the voting stats at the end of the show. The margin of Harry’s win will be massive.

  • Stoney

    Ha ha Im a celeb is proving to be as about as successful for me as x factor these days. I have money on Nick and Anne at the moment. Harry cant continue to get this favourable treatment for the next 2 weeks.
    Anyway, thankfully im good at betting on strictly otherwise id be homeless by now :/

    • Jessica Hamby

      He’s getting the coverage because he’s more entertaining than the others. Anne’s dramas will start to wear thin if they focus on them all the time. Nick’s earnestness is a winner in a divided or troubled camp but nothing special in a harmonious one.

      Noel is generally unpopular so if he continues to do well in trials and be an alright bloke he might win enough votes to join the battle for second place but he’ll have to reveal something special to pip Harry imo.

  • Stoney

    Nick closing in on Harry. Let’s see if he makes takes advantage of his new position.

  • Dave

    Any one got any idea why the huge drift on Fleur since Friday?

    • Jessica Hamby

      She’s not featured as much as she did in the first few days. The first few shows opened with her in the diary room pretty much narrating the show. That’s not happened for a while now and she’s not getting the same amount of airtime.

  • M8

    Harry’s big challenge will be to make the final. Football fans are lazy and the least realible when it comes to voting. If Harry can survive the public vote to get into the final then football fans will probably vote in numbers for a laugh.

    It’s worth noting that once eliminations start to occur, the campmates themselves pick who does the trials. This could well be bad news for Harry and Anne who you’d imagine won’t be picked to do any trials, and good news for Nick, John and possibly Emily. I believe a big reason Stanley didn’t make the final is because people forgot about him. Once the campmates picked the bushtucker trialists, he was rarely seen.

    • Jessica Hamby

      I don’t think it’s anything to do with football fans. It’s about the viewers. Harry is funny. He’s good telly. That’s why people like him. If he continues to be good telly then he’ll get airtime and people will vote for him. If his schtick gets boring or stale the edit will feature someone else who is fresher and more appealing to viewers.

      It really is that simple.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Oh God. Nick’s a micromanager.

    Breaking the rules is at least half, if not most, of the fun in life.

    He’s a living example of why people who are good at DIY are annoying.

    Surely he can’t win now. Might be good for Noel though.

    (Mind you, I’ve always been anti authority – perhaps the viewers are lanyard people, in which case Nick wins)

    • Stoney

      The market doesnt agree Jess. Still second favourite. Harry has started to fade a bit last few days.
      Anne is the value for me. A cert to get the next trial.

      • Jessica Hamby

        Great call on the trial Stoney.

        You might get this yet. But I have to be honest – I don’t want you to because Nick doesn’t do it for me. I don’t dislike him. I just don’t like him much. He might be good at doing the right things but I want someone who’s good at doing the wrong thing too. 😉

  • Stoney

    Nick is playing an absolute blinder.

  • Stoney

    Id actually prefer Anne to win. She’s worth double my Nick returns.
    But Nick seems to be playing the perfect game. Harry is a terrible price. There was no way that edit was going to carry on for the next 2 weeks.

    • Jessica Hamby

      Harry doesn’t need to keep getting that edit. He just needs to keep the cheeky chappy persona topped up and have a couple of good shows at the right time.

      Can Nick keep the good guy mask up for two more weeks? Can John? Can any of them?

      They need to put a bit more pressure on them. I want to see the masks slip. I’m only half watching the shows at the moment because I’m finding it a bit boring. I’m more interested in Holly’s outfits than what’s going on in camp. I still wonder if Noel might surprise us all and win it.

  • M8

    Nick just put himself well and truly in pole position. Genius game play. Let’s see if Anne can conjure up some support tomorrow.

  • markovs

    Emily is the sleeper here . Will come into her own as numbers go down and shes so likeable. Nick is a hit bossy, Harry is a terrible price and wont do any trials last week or so, and Anne is just not likeable enough for the sympathy vote to win out

    • Stoney

      Anne is on a journey and very likely to be edited well now in the run in.
      Ive gobbled up some 12s ahead of tonight’s trial.
      Harry backers must be starting to worry now.
      As for Emily, her odds are only as low as they are due to the recent winner trend. I would put her odds more around the 25/1 mark.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Anyone backing James must be throwing things at the tv today. I don’t think he’s been on-screen for more than 15 seconds.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Jesus. Look at Sair with those fish-eyes.

    She’s an animal.

  • Stoney

    How has this trial taken up over half the episode :/

  • Jessica Hamby

    There’s a “without Harry Redknapp” market.

    Anyone conceding yet?

  • Jessica Hamby

    Nick now drifted out as far as 16/1. Emily firmly established as second favourite (although nowhere near Harry) and Fleur is starting to come in again.

    Malique is available at 100/1, only at SkyBet. He’s come into the edit a lot more recently and those odds could well shorten in the next few days.

    • Stoney

      Nick has next to no chance now imo.
      Malique is an interesting prospect. Could see him sneaking a top 3.
      I can still see a twist in harrys chances in the next week or so.

      • Jessica Hamby

        I think Harry’s going to walk it. Nick might even be a good bet for a surprise early elimination. Sair and Rita will probably go first but after that it’s a bit up in the air.

        Final three is hard to call right now but at those odds (which are no longer available) Malique was definitely worth a punt.

  • Jessica Hamby

    First elimination tonight.

    Sair, Rita or James? James is favourite. Depends on who gets immunity of course, but I think James will survive this first one and Rita will go.

    The odds are really weird, with Sair is all over the place – varying from 20/1 to 9/4. Malique goes from 25/1 to 5/1.


  • Jessica Hamby

    Surprised to see Noel go so soon.

  • markovs

    Its still Emily for me. She is the real journey, not Anne. Very vulnerable but gutsy and fun. Have win, top 3 and top female at decent odds. Nick is way too competitive to win, Anne has no chance, Harrys price is unbackable. Fleur is the floater and have a bit at long odds ready to cash out as people get eliminated

  • markovs

    Just a note on the Malique comments above. Top 3?? Really? He offers nothing, is dumber than Joey Essex but without the charm. Just dont see it at all

  • Jessica Hamby

    Before this trial Fleur had already moved back up to third in the betting. If that reflects public opinion then this trial could push her right back into contention.


    Whoever thought of it is one sick puppy.

  • Nick

    Amazing trial …so gutsy from Fleur.
    Both Noel and malique said she should win!

    Still some hope with the 20/1 e/w ticket 😉

  • markovs

    Its Fleur all the way. She is getting every second of air time from ITV. They obviously want her to win and Harry is getting bugger all. Odds plummeting on Fleur as its so blatant

  • Kermit_The_Frog

    It would amuse me greatly to see Fleur win and relaunch her pop career, providing a much-needed smack in the face to Simon Cowell and his comments during the X-Factor final.

    I don’t imagine ITV were too pleased about him inferring that participating on the show is for “failures”…

  • Jessica Hamby

    Emily back to second favourite.

    Harry looks like he’s running on empty. He’s obviously had enough and is only staying out of pride. Whether that will alienate his fans remains to be seen. If he carries on like this he could be out soon.

  • Apleximus

    When they announce ‘It might be you’ and leave two of them before saying the eliminee, is that the bottom two in the vote? It has been Emily and Fleur for the last two days.

    • Danyal352

      Nearly all of the time it is the person in the bottom 2 but there have been exceptions. Eg in 2015 Ferne was called in bottom 2 even though she nearly topped the vote

    • George

      Last series it was always the bottom two but it was a bit more varied in years before that.

      No way of knowing for sure this year, but at the very least I find it unlikely that they would be named if they were doing very well.

    • Jessica Hamby

      It’s possible that those two are winning in the votes every night and the production team are trying to make it more dramatic and increase participation.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Poor Nick. He’s going to get such a shock when he gets eliminated (tomorrow if not tonight – the singing, the moon landings and the smugness have surely killed him).

    He’s been very funny tonight though.

  • Jessica Hamby

    C ya Nick. That was the easiest call this series.

    He’s in shock. He thought he’d won it.

    I’d love to see his face when he finds out the only reason he was #1 on iTunes was because Moyles was taking the piss. His dreams of a stadium tour will waft away like one of Anne’s farts.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Oh dear. Poor James. If he doesn’t go tonight he’ll go tomorrow. He turned into a bitch AND complained about money on the home straight. I think those are fatal errors.

  • Jessica Hamby

    And he’s gone….

    I still think Harry’s going to win it but if Fleur can hang on for a place then I’ll be happy with the series.

  • Jessica Hamby

    The good thing is that it’s Celebrity Cyclone tomorrow. Fleur will shine. That could well be enough to carry her through. I hope people don’t use up their votes before they see it.

  • Nick

    Come on Fleur, smash that Cyclone!…you can get in that top 3 😉

    Skybet have tricast of 1st}Harry 2nd)Emily 3rd)John at 9/4 for a cover bet.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Fleur now odds on favourite for next elimination and overtaken by John in the outright. The market does not fancy her chances of surviving the night.

    The cyclone is about to start. We’ll see if it stays the same afterwards. Sad thing is that it might be too late to make a difference.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Not surprised but a bit disappointed at that result.

    She’s sad. I am too. 🙁

  • Nick

    Damm….vote finished too soon after cyclone. ;-{{

    • Jessica Hamby

      The vote opened at the end of last night’s show. I presume a lot of people had voted before tonight’s show was aired. By the time they saw the task their votes were already gone.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Call of the series has to be Doyley

    November 19, 2018 at 8:13 pm · Reply
    I think Harry at 11 on the exchange (was 14) is excellent value. Has the potential to be the funniest in there. A quick twitter search shows that nearly everyone who watched last night is liking him and this includes a lot of girls too which I initially thought he may have struggled to win votes from. Let’s see.


    I hope you followed your own advice and made some money. I think I called it for Harry on 20 Nov but sadly I didn’t back him. 🙁

  • Doyley

    Thank you 🙂 made about 3k in the end. Cashed out out a little early, would have been 5.5k if I’d let it all run, but have to grab the money and run sometimes. Thanks for all the analysis from you and everyone else. GL all

  • Jessica Hamby

    Voting stats are out.

    Harry won every elimination vote.

    Nick came fourth in the vote where John was exempt but apart from that Harry, Emily, John and Fleur were top four in every elimination vote.

    Trial / camp leader votes are included in the stats on the linked page.


  • tpfkar

    Dear all. I don’t know if it is appropriate to post this (mods please delete if not) but I have just seen the following sad news on twitter:


    I have had so much pleasure and the occasional profit from following this site; there is nothing quite like it on the internet and Daniel has built up something very special here.

    My thoughts with his family and close friends; while I can appreciate a wise and witty analyst, they will be mourning a friend and family member with all the pain and memories that will bring back. RIP Daniel.

  • Boki

    Very sad to hear this :(. RIP Daniel.

  • Henry VIII

    Terrible news. RIP Daniel. Thoughts to all his friends and family.

  • annie

    what??? what happened?? I am in shock! RIP Daniel.

  • Alan Sedgwick

    Truly dreadful news – this site is one of the most intelligent Eurovision sites there is, and back when I watched X Factor it was a key part of my reading too. He will be truly missed.

  • Justin

    So sad to hear this terrible news. A tragic and desperately premature loss and thoughts with his family and friends. Thank you Daniel for giving us Sofabet and providing an such innovative betting education.

  • Nick

    Very shocked, and extremely sad news. RIP Daniel

  • M8

    Incredibly sad news. Thoughts are with his family. Daniel was a true master of his craft and hopefully us readers on here will ensure his fantastic site that has won many of us lots of money remains active.

  • James Martin

    I’ve posted in the latest thread but just want to say again how terribly saddened I am by the news. They are impossible shoes to fill but I genuinely hope somebody will be able to pick up the baton in the run-up to Tel Aviv and carry on what is a wonderful legacy and body of work. Let’s help each other make a few quid come May. It’s clichéd but I imagine it’s what he would have wanted.

    Needless to say my thoughts are with his family – to lose anyone at 42 is just horrific. At this time of year even moreso.

  • Milton

    What horrible news. Deepest sympathy to his family and friends. RIP Daniel. ESC and X Factor won’t be the same without you. You’ll be greatly missed.

  • Mark Dowd

    It is indeed terribly sad news. He was a gentle giant in the world of ESC. He had just recorded the December edition of EUROBLISS with Andy Chrimes in which he laid into some of his least favourite Eurovision numbers. His trashing of Iceland 2011 and others can be heard here for those that want to feel some connection…


    There will be a special tribute to Daniel in the January programme from several of the EUROBLISS regulars.

    God rest his soul. What a huge loss to his family and to us all.

  • Matt Tuson

    Been keeping checking here wondering when the breakdown of voting stats for x factor was gonna be up, not noticing the comments section then I noticed and got a massive shock when it made it obvious what happened. I want to say thank you Daniel for giving me a new and enjoyable way of watching shows I like such as X Factor, Britain’s Got Talent and America’s Got Talent, I keep reading articles on many days with interest on how you analyse the shows. May you rest in peace and all condolences go to your friends and family.

    Wonder what is going to happen with this site? I’m mentioning this as one of the best tributes possible would be if one of the site’s other writers from over the years can pick up the baton and continue what Daniel did. It is what Daniel would want, and he would not want this site to just fade into obscurity.

    Also want to say everyone must stop asking what happened. The family are obviously going through a terrible time right now losing someone at just 42 so suddenly so the last thing they need is people bombarding them asking what happened.

  • eurovicious

    Tim told me the news on Saturday morning. I loved Daniel and held him in high regard, and he knew that. I always enjoyed our annual lunches from 2012 to Lisbon this year, and loved writing for and commenting on his site. My thoughts are with his family.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Just saw this news.

    Very sad to read it.

    Nothing else to add except farewell Daniel. I will remember you kindly.

  • Chris Bellis

    This is a tragedy. My favourite site, and my favourite read. He gave us many hours of fun and humour. One of the best writers on the internet, in my opinion. Condolences to all his family and friends, and condolences to other posters on this site who will miss him terribly. RIP.

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