SCD2015 Discussion Thread

There’s no better time to start a discussion thread on Strictly Come Dancing than during the launch show. Tonight the celebrities are paired with the pros, and the betting begins in earnest. Peter Andre starts the series as the early favourite. Let us know your fancies and thoughts below.

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  • DannyCraig

    Peter Andre a worthy favourite. Expecting him vs Georgia / Helen for the title. Anthony Agogo unfortunately not looking like he has much rhythm (my speculative 12/1 shot on him not looking too strong right now)
    Ladbrokes 7/4 on Peter Andre to be top male looks great right now imho.

  • stoney

    Still keeping an eye on jay. Hes got the most potential to go on a journey looked very nervous last night and has drifted out to 9s as a result.
    Early favourites have a poor history on most reality programs especially strictly

  • Wonder if anyone got on the 12/1 offered on Janette to be the winning pro before the market was closed before last night. I snapped that right up as soon as I found out the partnerships earlier in the week.

    No gender has ever won Strictly three years running. We’ve now had two female winners in a row which means we are set for a male winner this year, Darcy basically confirmed it on the launch show.

    Also no professional dancer has ever won the show more than once, this favours Janette and Otile hugely.

    Safe to say I’m all in on Peter having backed him the moment he was announced and Janette as the winning pro (basically Peter Andre to win at 12/1). I’ve covered Anthony but I really can’t see anyone other than Peter taking it. I’m sure they’ll be twists and turns as always but Peter really does look hard to beat based on stats, fanbase, dance moves and likeability.

  • stoney

    Decided to get stuck into jay when he drifted to 10/1 for me he was the value before tonight and still is even at 7’s can see him shortening week by week and is definately on a journey to the final. Peter hugely over hyped tonight.

  • stoney

    Andre being pimped for the 2nd week in a row. Worrying times for the favourite backers

  • stoney

    For the first year ever im more interested in strictly than i am the x factor. Things might change as the lives begin but ive got stuck into jay the last few weeks. Not only that but i had the winner last year so feel my best shot at a nice xmas bonus is with strictly. Jay is leading every poll ive seen over the last week and has twice the amount of likes on the strictly facebook page. Early days i know but ive got a good feeing on this one

  • stoney

    Jay mcguiness won the competition tonight. Game over

  • Chatterbox5200

    Interesting that the show has continually reminded viewers of both Helen and Georgia’s previous dancing experience, but have yet to mention that Jay went to The Charlotte Hamilton School of Dance when he was younger (source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_mcguiness#Jay_McGuiness).

    This was mentioned by Jamie East on Twitter tonight – https://twitter.com/mrjamieeast/status/652925595387625472

  • stoney

    Just checked the strictly facebook page. Jays performance tonight has at the moment got 63000 likes. Peter Andre is only 60 thousand likes behind him lol. No wonder jay is almost odds on to win.
    That’s an astronomical amount of likes on a facebook page. I don’t usually follow strictly as in debth as i have this year but im pretty sure thr top x factor performances struggle to hit 10 thousand likes per week

  • Natasha

    Almost 90 000 likes now on the strictly Facebook page for jay. Wow, the others are struggling to reach 5000 lol

    His shyness and the fact he is unaware of how good he actually is, is endearing. The total opposite of Peter Andre!

    Its still early days, very early days. Has he peaked to soon? Is being an early favorite a bad thing?

    • stoney

      He only just became favourite last night so I don’t see it as a negative. Only ever so slightly concerned that he is looking like a pro too early in the competition. Think that’s why they didn’t give him the 40 he deserved last night.

      • Natasha

        If indeed a male is going to win, I can’t see anyone else but jay winning. We have another 10 weeks to go lol can he keep the momentum going or will there be a dark horse that shines bright towards the end and eclipses jay?

        I backed him last week so hope he manages to keep going till the very end and wins it

        • Jessica Hamby

          Aliona is v popular too. If he was with Kristina or Ola it might be harder for him. The dance school stories could cause a backlash but they didn’t hurt Caroline Flack.

          • stoney

            Probably half the contestants each series have had some form of dance training. From what I’ve seen on the Internet most people aren’t fussed that he’s had training. Everyone is embracing a bloody good dancer who let’s face it is a singer from a boy band that to my knowledge never danced.
            The fact that the show aren’t highlighting any of this is good news as they are obviously wanting him to have every chance of polling each week. If they want a male winner them jay is the best shot they have by a long margin.

  • stoney

    Even the eliminations are proving easy to call this year ive won my stake money on jay back already the last 2 weeks. Who needs x factor 🙂

  • Natasha

    Im on for carol getting the boot this week and I too am enjoying this years strictly more than I am x factor

    • stoney

      Cant see it myself. Huge fan base via the bbc. I’m thinking more along the lines of jamelia or kirsty, just can’t haven’t decided which one.
      Definitely all about strictly this year, I’ve even been watching the occasional it takes 2 spin off. Honestly never thought I’d see the day I preferred a strictly series over the x factor.

      • Natasha

        I did a bit of reading earlier and spotted Kirsty is doing the Paso doble which I envisage being totally terrible lol also noticed that she has near to no support on any of the sites I read. Went in for the kill and took the 10/3 available for her to be eliminated Sunday.

        Re x factor, the audition process has been dragged on for far too long and gotten boring so I too have switched my interest this year to strictly

        • stoney

          Lol carol to kirsty in the space of a few hours. The reason ive lost interest is basically all down to Mr Mcguiness. A nice price which is set to earn me a packet. I have laid down a few smaller bets on the factor but I am not gonna follow that up as id rather keep piling the money on jay than risk more money on x factor and get another poxy runner up

  • Alan

    Does anyone know if Jay is free for the Strictly tour? Wont he get thrown under the bus if he’s not available?

    • stoney

      We don’t find out this early. Yes he would be chucked under the bus as would anyone else not taking part. I see no reason why he wouldn’t do the tour though

  • Kermit_The_Frog

    Contestants with previous experience (as in real experience) do tend to lose public favour, though Jill Halfpenny won (the public didn’t like Denise Lewis for some reason) and so did Caroline (though, in the nicest possible way, she always seemed a bit too rubbsh to be a ‘ringer’).

    Jay has peaked VERY EARLY. The last example of this was Sophie Ellis-Bextor and we all know that she didn’t win.

    My ‘favourites’ money would go on Andre/Jay but my ‘dark horse’ money is on Anita – she’s the only one of the Top 5 that doesn’t have previous experience, is bloody good and comes across as very likeable…

    By the way, there have been winners who didn’t do the tour before…

    This week’s elimination is obviously hard to predict (so much depends on how they score during the show) – though how Kirsty has escaped the dance off so far is a mystery to me.

    3/4 dance off participants so far are 3/4 non-White contestants – Strictly hates when the public (accidentally) show prejudice, so I anticipate Jamelia and Ainsley getting positive VTs and inflated scores.

    Finally, there’s only room for one ‘public favourite’ escaping the bottom 2 against all odds – so Carol or Jeremy will be leaving sooner rather than later.

    (Really) finally – Daniel couldn’t possibly win the show. Could he?

    • stoney

      In a nut shell no he couldn’t. Id want another 0 on the 80/1 before i got tempted. Also most of the dancers in previous years with dancing experience haven’t had nowhere near the level of support jay has got. If the final was this weekend he would win by a landslide. But yes still a long way to go

      • The Ferret

        if you have got a decent amount on Jay at 10/1 then now is the time to be laying it off and locking in the profit. 2.22 is available to lay right now on BFair, “many a slip twixt cup and lip” and all that means it should be a no-brainer!

        • stoney

          May cover in the latter stages but hes only gonna get stronger. As i said my stake is covered from the last 2 eliminations now is not the right time to be laying off.

  • stoney

    Kirsty to go this weekend to make it 3 out of 3 for me. This series is so far like taking candy from a baby

  • Jessica Hamby

    Peter Andre called a liar by a judge this week too. That’s not a good look.

    • stoney

      Sweet might back him for elimination in a few weeks. His fan base is too big to go this early plus i don’t see him coming low enough in the scores to go out just yet. I see he was sniping about jay in the paper. Very desperate he is

      • Jessica Hamby

        He’s getting a lot of “big head” feedback and being accused of acting like he thinks it’s his for the taking. He’s quite good though, so an early exit is unlikely in a dance off. Is he likely to come up against someone better than him?

  • Jessica Hamby

    Bad luck Stoney. Sounds like Daniel’s stage fright got the better of him in the dance off. I almost backed Kirsty myself but stayed out of it in the end.

    • stoney

      Within a whisker of a 3 in a row. I honestly thought kirsty would go against anyone in a dance off. Just a shame that strictly play by the rules a bit more than x factor. Cos we’ve seen umpteen sing off mares stay in the competition

  • stoney

    Strictly embarrassed the x factor last night ratings wise. And although i came up short for the 2nd week running in the dance off (backed jamelia to leave) I was happy that jays march to the win is very much back on track. I think there playing the patience game with him now. Amazing performance a few weeks ago with a hiccup and a return to earth last week. Back up the top end of the leader board last night and I fully expect him to hit a 40 score in the next 3-4 weeks

    • Jessica Hamby

      X factor was utter garbage yesterday. I’m not sure I’ll bother with it tonight myself.

      • stoney

        An epic fail. Gonna be going into the live shows with a whimper. I’ve pretty much lost interest

        • Henry VIII

          Stay with it. I’m enjoying it much more this year, much better singers and more interesting characters than the last few years. I’m also enjoying the dramatic way they produce it too, but maybe I’ve become desensitised to all the naffness.

  • stoney

    Might be a few weeks early but 100/1 for andre next elimination is way too big. Well worth a small punt. Hes definately due a dance off in the next few weeks

  • stoney

    Andre moaning today that his chances of winning are being scuppered as he’s not doing the tour. He had no chance of winning but this is indeed the nail in the coffin to his chances.
    Carol has to go tonight!

  • Jessica Hamby

    Jeremy is out.

    Jay is drifting, Georgia is shortening.

    • Ferret

      yes – sussed that from the outright betting with several bookies removing him from their lists … nice £300 profit after he drifted to 6.8 on betfair earlier in the week – got enough on to be able to lay off and guarantee a decent profit!

      Worried about Georgia now though – she is a £324 loser in my book after i could not get £50 matched at 7.8 pre-show tonight

      • Jessica Hamby

        She could well do him in the final but at their best J / Aliona are captivating. It’s going to be interesting.

        • stoney

          Georgia is being pushed in order to create a competition. In reality there isn’t one. Jay had it won since his jive in week 3. I fully expect him to be back at the top end of the leader board tonight dancing the salsa. He will also shorten again. And once he produces the jive in the final it will be a done deal

  • stoney

    An absolutely brilliant moment just now on the strictly spin off show where Jamelia says she knew she was going home in the dance off when they re-recorded a standing ovation for the hopeless Andre.
    That was the last thing the producers needed. They really need to fix up otherwise this show will head the way the X factor has

  • stoney

    Jay clearly the best last night but they are reigning his score in a tad. Should have topped the leader board last night but the public aren’t fooled he’s miles ahead of the pack in the polls.
    Oh and the fact hes the last man standing should seal the deal now. Gonna be a merry xmas

  • Jessica Hamby

    Georgia and Helen b2. Helen out.

  • Jack

    I’m very new to watching Strictly, but surely the fact that Georgia hit the Dance-off from second on the leaderboard suggests she has comparatively small support compared to Anita, Jay and Katie? When does it switch to complete public vote? As I say I’m very new to Strictly.

    • stoney

      Next week (semi) will be the final dance off
      Then it’s public vote for the final. Georgia hitting the bottom 2 explains the recent good dance positions she has been getting along with being overmarked.
      I would expect jay to get a 40 next weekend leading into the final

      • Jack

        Cheers Stoney. What’s confusing me is why is Georgia still a strong second favourite when it seems that Anita, Jay and Katie have all seemingly got more support than her and the final is entirely sorted on public vote. Is it like X Factor in that more people vote in the final and they’ll be voting on ability?

        • stoney

          She isnt m really a strong second favourite shes drifting every day. But she seems to have the producer backing. But i think if she gets to the semi she is most likely to finish 4th as we know her phone vote isn’t as strong as the others. However caroline fell in the bottom 2 last year one week and went on to win. As did Abbey Clancy. I guess that’s why she is still second favourite as I think a lot of money will have been staked on her from punters looking at value aside from jay who has been at very low prices for over a month now.

  • Henry VIII

    What do we think about Jay deciding not to do his Jive in the final? I think it could be important. He’s the most popular but it’s the wow dances that bring in the votes in the final. His Jive has the most YT views, but the next 3 highest are for Georgia. Her Jive and Charleston are a long way ahead of the rest.

    Especially if she ups her game and he fumbles. That wouldn’t have mattered so much before.

    4 highest YT views:

    1st Jay Jive 1,193,268
    2nd Georgia Jive 287,130
    3rd Georgia Charl 218,446
    4th Georgia Samba 183,762

    Figures taken this morning.

  • stoney

    Im pissed if im honest. The same sort of news in the x factor would lead to a massive drift. Strangely he is shortening today. I still believe there won’t be nearly enough floating voters to dislodge jay on Saturday, he leads the polls comfortably. And had a solid loyal support. He is the only person not to be in the dance off.
    But this is the big one for me and im really annoyed he isn’t doing the dance that would have guaranteed him the win.
    However like I said the market doesn’t appear to be worried about him not doing the jive.

    • Edie M

      I think it could potentially be a good thing. He has messed up in the past and the pressure of living up to the first time could really have got too much for him.

      • stoney

        Yeah he definitely couldn’t have topped the first one. But im puzzled as to why they would give him the quickstep. I imagine they are just trying to level the playing field a bit. It wouldn’t surprise me if he is running away with the phone vote.

        • Edie M

          two possibilitites: 1. they want it to be a bit more suspenseful/fairer as he’s the only one who hasn’t been in the bottom 2. he/they wanted a dance that he messed up the first time so he can better it this time and show how far he’s come rather than trying to do a repeat performance of a high scoring dance.

  • stoney

    Ive only been betting on strictly for the last 3 series. I backed caroline last year and im sure it was very close between her and frankie going into the final. Caroline was around 4/6 frankie 2/1.
    Surely jay should cruise it from here. They can’t want another female winner to pip jay to the post

  • Henry VIII

    I’m pissed about it too. I think he should have relaxed and just agreed to do it. Even if inferior to the first time it would still be his best.

    I’m hoping that Georgia just doesn’t have the magic of Kara Tointon. I think she lacks the chemistry of Jay and Aliona. Kara was infatuated with her partner whereas Georgia has a boyfriend and also her partner is cold anyway.

    • stoney

      When I first made my decision to back Jay it was on the basis that they would want a male winner this year. I never rated PA’s chances and his odds put me off straight away. I also saw Jay following the same road as Harry Judd especially having Alliona as his partner. So I can’t think why they would hamper Jay winning now. Wouldn’t make any sense. He is the most favoured contestant by a mile. He has been undermarked compared to others. I would say that only Georgia could snatch it from him now but it would take a big effort from the judges to swing the pendulum in her favour bearing in mind Jay is 1/5 for the win now.
      Nothing is certain but I have long considered Jay a more comfortable winner of strictly than Louisa in X factor.

  • Anyone compiling Strictly final polls? I remember Abbey Clancy being miles ahead in all the polls in her year, when pretty much everyone expected Susanna Reid to win.

  • stoney

    You guv poll in todays sun
    Who do you want to win
    Jay 37%
    Georgia 16%
    Kellie 14%
    Katie 8%
    Dont know 24%

    Jay the runaway leader on every poll and a best price 2/9
    Should be a formality from here even with the odd dances he’s doing. I do expect the show dance to be pretty special.

  • Cath

    Stoney, you may have been heartened by the costume discussions for the show dances on ITT this week. Vicky explained that Kelly had wanted a gold dress, but wasn’t allowed a completely gold dress ‘because of the colour palette through the show’. Moments later Vicky Gill revealed that Aliona would be wearing a blonde gold dress…… I wonder who the favoured couple might be? Even if not deliberate, it won’t hurt Jay to be dancing with the golden girl.

    • stoney

      Yes i had seen this story cath. Although I’d much rather they were dancing the jive than being given that preferential dress. But every little helps

  • Chelsea

    What do you guys think of the elimination markets for the next contestant to leave? To be honest I haven’t been following this year’s show but now X Factor/I’m a Celeb have finished I have no other TV shows left to bet on.

    Is Katie Derham to go next @ 1.67 a good punt in your humble opinions?

  • stoney

    Last night was a very hard watch for me. I didn’t have any cover in place but was quietly confident that they were doing everything in there power to level the playing field. My nerves were erased after jays paso. I knew from the comments that he has won it.
    Come on murray round of my best week ever in my gambling career.
    Louisa 11/2
    Jay 9/1
    Andy murray 8/1

  • Stoney

    Really looking forward to next weeks strictly final. What makes it even more exciting is that a certain little obsessed fan of mine is backing Debbie for the win. Nothings a certainty but im fairly confident Joe wins this. If he does I imagine betfair will be getting a phone call asking them to void the market. No one likes a cry baby that cant take losing money.

    • Stoney

      Keyboard warrior hedging his bets the night before the final to try and evade the massive dollop of egg travelling towards his head. Hilarious stuff.

  • Stoney

    And has now blocked me on Twitter after I answered him back on 1 of his many tweets digging me out. Oh well just confirms what I already knew. The blokes a gutless weasel. Sorry for airing this on here chaps but this is the last of it. Mery xmas to you all.

  • Alan

    Well done Stoney. Happy Xmas.

  • Jessica Hamby

    Interesting article here about on-line tipsters and how their affiliation with bookmakers can influence their tips.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/sep/01/revealed-tipsters-deliberately-recommend-losing-bets-to-punters

    • Jessica Hamby

      It’s fascinating how these things work.

      … losing tipsters are masquerading as being successful by using a variety of tactics, be it through social media where they create new accounts and delete posts to fit a narrative, or simpler things, such as quoting odds that don’t exist

      I hope no-one here gets caught up with one of these sneaky devils.

      Beware people. It’s a jungle out there. Look at where your information is coming from and ask yourself how accurate it really is. The aim here is to win, not to confidently place a losing bet.

  • Andy

    Could Alex Beresford be a value bet for the new series of Dancing on ice ? A quick look at google images show a man in peak physical condition, Jason Gardiner likely to be a fan, Alex has been paired with Brianne Delcourt who is one of only four professional skaters who have returned to the show and will therefore be a familiar figure with viewers, Brianne managed 3 podium finishes in 5 seasons as a professional on the show, A win when partnered with Sam Attwater in series 6, 2nd place with Matt Lapinskas in series 8 and 3rd place with Kieron Richardson in series 5. Surely no blame could be attached to Brianne for finishing down the leaderboard when she was partnered with Gareth Gates in the all stars series which was always going to be a struggle, A possible strong regional vote from Bristol which is the 10th largest city in the UK, Alex also likely to be producer favoured considering he has worked for ITV as a weatherman for the last 13 or so years, obviously I haven’t a clue if Alex can skate or not but 16/1 looking a decent enough price considering all of the above.
    Merry Christmas all.

  • Stoney

    Happy new year everyone. Let’s hope 2018 is as good as 2017 was.
    Anyone involved in cbb at the mo. Haven’t seen any of it yet but based on the odds ive had a punt on Amanda. Should have a big following from Corrie fans and I’m hearing she has made a decent start in the house. The 9/1 appeals to me.
    I will be keeping a look out for Shayne Linch’s odds when he enters. Got a lot going for him in terms of voting boxes ticked.

    • If I were writing any articles for this series, Amanda e/w would be my early tip. I can also see Maggie and Ann as potential winners from the women. Of the men, Dapper Laughs interests me the most as there could be a redemption storyline there and he could potentially change perceptions. Or he could be a tool.

      • Stoney

        You not rating the potential of a big Irish/boy band vote then?

        • Sure, I will respect his chances. I’ve been trading accordingly to ensure a solid Any Other green for when the eight guys enter tonight. Courtney Act will also be very interesting.

          • Stoney

            I’m with you on Courtney. Ive gone in @ 10s.
            I can’t for the life of me see why Dappa laughs is favourite.

          • Tim B

            That wardrobe malfunction of Courtney’s is probably this year’s equivalent of “David’s dead!”. It’s been viewed over 1 million times already. She has a huge cult following from RuPaul’s Drag Race who will spam the polls and social media, so I can see her trading a lot shorter. Michelle Visage went down to 3.0 favourite this time three years ago.

            Dapper Laughs may have some chance but he’s far, far too short. He reminds me a lot of Paul Danan who was supposedly in with a big shot last series but failed spectacularly.

  • Stoney

    Ive moved my Amanda chips over to Shane. At the moment I can see the 2 Shanes going head to head for the win.

    • Did we even see him tonight? There’s a long way to go, and it’s wide open….no, I’m not talking about Courtney.

      • Stoney

        He was barely in tonights show but interestingly shortened. Which is probably a result of Dappa lengthening. Id rate his chances at more like 20s. If he seriously wants to redeem himself, talking about hanging out the back of one of the housemates is absoultely idiotic.

      • Stoney

        No he wasn’t in tonights show but interestingly shortened. Which is probably a result of Dappa lengthening. Id rate his chances at more like 20s. If he seriously wants to redeem himself, talking about hanging out the back of one of the housemates is absoultely idiotic.

  • Stoney

    Courtney opening up a gap with her rivals on betfair. Still think the producers will have to do some work to stop the popular irish boy band member winning but she is definitely off to a good start.

  • Stoney

    I’m repeatedly seeing people say Courtney is way too short. I seem to be alone in thinking she is exactly the opposite. She is running away with this as things stand.

  • Stoney

    Should have made an absoule killing on cbb having seen Courtney as a nailed on winner from 10/1. However my tactic that proved so successful in strictly in moving all chips over to my fancied winner in the final week did not go to plan. Oh well onto the voice. Haven’t seen anything past the 1st episode and im watching tonight’s episode. Ive lumped on Donel because he would be the voice franchise best hope of a star. My only worry is weve had 4 male winners in a row so far.

  • Andy

    Song choice will be crucial, he has quite a few songs on YouTube that are quite painful to the ears. A decent ballad is usually critical in this show, I would love to listen to more of Anna Willison Holt if anybody know where she is hiding her songs ?
    Simon Davies was flawless in his vocal but his songs over on YouTube all sound the same, still more acts to be added so not jumping in just yet.

  • Andy

    Raksu undoubtedly had the xfactor and feel good factor on a show called xfactor.
    This is called the voice. I’m not convinced at the moment mate, I agree the show will help Donal after the unforgettable audition but not sure public play ball when the he is up against better vocals in the lives.

    • Stoney

      At some point the voice is going to have to produce a star otherwise they may as well knock it on the head. Its fair to say every single winner has been an absolute flop in the charts. Thats shocking for a singing show. Only 1 contestant from the god knows how many years has had any kind of success, and that is Becky Hill. In fact I dont even know why people bother entering it.

      • Andy

        Totally agree Stoney, the winners lack of success is embarrassing for the franchise.
        Re Donal – Will made a pretty strong statement in a attempt to get Donal onto his team, “you pick me bro and you’ve got me for however long you want me in your life” so it won’t surprise anyone when Will throws all his weight behind him, and if the show follows the same format as last year Donal is absolutely guaranteed to win in the battles, Live knockouts and also get the fast pass in the live show quarter final, it would be hypocritical of Will NOT to send the Donal to the semis after his promises of wanting to work with him but the lad will have given us three more songs by the time the semi comes around and his vocal weakness should be evident to all by this stage.
        Mark Asari and Anna Willison Holt are likely to have been sacrificed by the semi final stage and that could well leave a sour taste in the mouths of viewers who watch as stronger vocals are eliminated in place of Donal.
        Donal has a talent and if Will is determined to make a star of the lad I’m sure it’s possible but neck on the line I’m saying he has NO possible chance of winning this series or any other series of a show called THE VOICE,
        He has a hugely popular coach, he had a fantastic audition, he seems like a very likeable young lad and his nan will bring a smile to many viewers faces, but the fact is he just doesn’t have THE VOICE.

        • Stoney

          Wasnt you backing that young lad last year? I remember someone was. He didn’t have the voice either. I only watched the final and remember lumping on Mo as an obvious winner. Not that we’ve heard anything from him since.

  • Andy

    Yes mate, I was on Jamie for the win, like you said, he didn’t have the voice either, you live and learn. Fair play to the lad cause he is now signed to Atlantic records, America’s biggest record label.

    • Stoney

      Wonder if they will look at that and push for a Donel win. It would be the sensible thing to do if they want a decent winner for the Franchise. Itv are likely to care considerably less about having a winner with ‘the voice’ than the BBC would have done.

      • Andy

        I was backing Millicent Weaver last year before I skipped over to Jamie Miller, I also back Lee Glasson a few years back so my opinion should probably be dismissed but I just feel that a mature Voice audience will vote for a powerhouse vocal over a young lad like Donal all day long when it gets down to the business end of the competition, maybe for a few shows people will get caught up in the euphoria that surrounds the lad after his audition but I’d have to guess that will surely wear off after a few shows, I wouldn’t feel confident laying the lad at the moment because of that euphoria and he could well go a lot shorter, but after listening to most of his videos on YouTube I’m fairly certain this young lad cannot possibly win this.
        Humble pie most likely coming my way very soon.

      • Andy

        I think the euphoria wave surrounding Donal’s audition could cause his price to go shorter and for that reason I wouldn’t feel comfortable laying the lad at the moment, but for me that euphoria is certain to wear off after a few of the lives. The voice has a much more mature audience than the X factor and a sense of fairness must surely prevail when Donal goes up against powerhouse voices later in the series. I’ve spent a hour or so going through Donal’s online videos and don’t think it’s possible that this lad can win this.
        But this is coming from a fella who backed Millicent Weaver and Jamie Miller last year and Lee Glasson a few years ago so will most probably be eating humble pie again in a few weeks time.

  • Andy

    Did you move money over to Ann in CBB mate? I swapped and changed my mind between Ann and Courtney about a dozen times during the 4 weeks.

    • Stoney

      Yes mate I had a shocker. I was sitting pretty on Courtney at the midway point. Would have been a nice win. But I shifted it all over to Ann by the final week. Ended up losing money. But I did cash my Courtney stakes out at decent profit. Still look back and wish I at least held cover on Courtney. I did the same with Joe in strictly and that paid off handsomely. Too be fair I had a good run last year so I ended up getting cocky.

  • Andy

    I followed your comments on entertainment odds, got to be honest and say that was a fantastic shout from a early stage. Most punters were bending over backwards to back Alexandra, Debbie and Aston. I didn’t get caught up in Alex and Aston but would have been a lot wealthier if deb had prevailed.

    • Stoney

      I had 250 ew on joe at 16/1 from day 1. My very 1st bet. I also had debbie at 25/1. I had Alex and Gemma at early stages too. By the end I had cashed out everyone and lumped quite a bit more on Joe to win. It was a happy Christmas let me tell you.

      • Andy

        Astonishing you found the winner that early, will be tapping you for a tip next September.
        Plenty to go at until then, Like most here I’m looking forward to Eurovision and a little embarrassed to say I like the Spanish entry.

  • Stoney

    Just seen the preview for the battles. Looks to be a good night for Donel. I expect him to shorten considerably. They seem to be pushing him as the star this year. I seriously think he could be a potential future star.

  • Stoney

    Here’s another thing that I think.
    Donel will win the voice easily, and go on to have more success than the X Factor winners Raksu.

    • Andy

      You could well be right Stoney, they took out two of the market leaders last night, Simon and Scarlett, Donal’s voice was much better than the vast majority of his YouTube posts where he sounds awful to be honest, I layed a little of Donal but thankfully not too much, the show has made their intentions very clear.

      • Stoney

        He is streets ahead of the pack in terms of popularity. You know they are gonna roll the nan back out in time for the final. The only thing that stops him now is if the casual vote gets behind a belter in the final.
        You can just imagine Cowell seething that he hasn’t got his mits on Donel.

  • Andy

    He isn’t going to have any competition in the final if they take out all the best vocals this early, and what on earth was Jennifer thinking with smells like teen spirit for Scarlett and Bella Voci, I’ve had a speculative punt on RYT, poor Olly been dealt a stinker of a hand but RYT could surprise.

  • Stoney

    Yeah that was an awful song choice. When they hit the chorus is was shockinly bad. How does voting work during the lives is it free app voting. Hopefully so. I think the key for me this year is the point I picked up on a few posts ago. The prime objective MUST be to find a pop star winner, regardless of neglecting the VOICE as such.

  • Andy

    If I remember correctly last year app users could vote just once, would take a guess at the same this year, app stats are on tellymix from last nights battles, Donal won his battle by the largest margin.

    • Stoney

      His battle also got the most app views. Im pretty sure he cleaned up on all social media fronts. I actually think odds against for him is too big. Feels like the same tactics as X factor used to get Louisa as winner a few years back

  • Tom

    Just caught up with the battles today, their bias towards Donel is worse than their bias towards Mo last year… But will the public support him like they did with Mo?

  • Andy

    There is value on betfair somewhere but i’m cautious about second guessing the show at the moment, one way or the other 3 other contestants will be in the final and there are some decent prices out there. Any thoughts ?
    I’m heavy green on RYT, Jake Benson and have taken a little of the 70/1 on Shane McCormack back to lay obviously.

    • Stoney

      Interesting that you have backed 2 male winners there. Ideally you’d have to fancy they would prefer a female winner this year which makes the value with the females if they aren’t able to get Donel over the line.

      • Andy

        No value in Lucy, I like Anna willison Holt but she’s on the same team as Donal so will probably be sent home before the lives and the only other female audition which caught my eye was Lauren Bannon who would be a difficult sell with the voting public, I’m tempted with Bella Voci but it would just make Donal even more Red, and if they get more tracks along the lines smell like teen spirit then it’s curtains unfortunately, Not really in a good position but hoping one of the large greens can be traded out at lower prices, Everyone green at the moment apart from Donal, just hoping his vocal weakness becomes evident at some stage.

        • Stoney

          That’s a dangerous position to be in. They arent likely to give him any ballads to sign. It will be played exactly the same way Raksu were played in X factor. The only niggle for me would be a duet with Will which could take the wind out of the sails.
          Im not the best person to ask on the others chances as Donel is the only one I’ve been watching closely.

  • Andy

    I’ll have a listen mate. Song choice will probably be carefully selected for Donal.

  • Stoney

    Knock out clips from tonight’s show are out. No surprise at all to see them taking Donel down the Bruno Mars route.

  • Stoney

    The producer intentions are right up their in the most blatent ive ever seen. However im not willing to let that cloud the fact that Donel is a star in the making.

  • Stoney

    Just how good is Donel at performing. He is gonna have a big career. He doesnt have the best voice, but he’s probably the best performer ive seen on a reality singing show.
    For this reason alone the producers will make sure he wins next weekend. I’m certain of that. Anyone else involved?

  • Stoney

    Good luck to me and me only tonight by the looks of it. Fingers crossed for a straight forward favourite winning the final.

  • Tom

    Oh my. They’re deramping Donel. Red and Black and first on. A bit of white though, and his nan. Maybe he doesn’t need help.

  • Tom

    Belle Voci are singing the instrumental music used in the X Factor when they come out for the results. They’ll literally sing “This is the Voice” next year.

    On a serious note, they were rather forgettable.

  • Stoney

    Donel had a bad start but its still his to lose. I think will has something special lined up in the duets.

  • Tom

    Will: “I’m rooting for Donel but you’re great Ruti. I love Donel but you’re good too!” Not an actual quote but Will kept mentioning Donel. It’s Donel, Donel, Donel.

    I think Donel and Lauren are the final two. I agree with Stoney about it being Donel’s to lose but Lauren could be a dark horse. I get a Sara Alto vibe from her.

  • Stoney

    Order change:)

  • Tom

    Donel not on first for round two. Probably got the pimp.

  • Tom

    Belle Voci are horrible. In black along with the background violinists. It’s all about Jennifer. I’m even more confident about Lauren making the last two.

    Oh, nevermind, she’s right after.

  • Tom

    Lauren is worse than Belle Voci. I think Stoney is right, they’ve got something special for Donel. Could Ruti sneak second? Honestly at this rate I have no idea; but it’s a race for second place.

    Update: Ruti gets the pimp.

  • Tom

    This is not something special… My ears are genuinely hurting…

    • Stoney

      Somehow Will has put Donel in a postion where he might end up losing. What a buffoon.

      • Tom

        Ruti could be a suprise winner. She is the only one who hasn’t had a disaster so far.

        It turns out you’re still right either way Stoney: “The only niggle for me would be a duet with Will which could take the wind out of the sails.”

  • Stoney

    What pisses me off is how Will allowed Donel to save his 2 worst performances for the final.

    • Tom

      Maybe his lead is so large even putting in virtually no effort into his performances won’t stop him from winning. I hope they’ve saved the best for last…

      I think Ruti is dangerously close to Donel, within 5 percent.

  • Tom

    This is slightly better than his last two performances.

    Oh look, there’s his nan. He’s secured the win, just.

  • Tom

    Ruti didn’t do enough there. My final call is Donel. What I want to see is the difference between Donel’s semi-final and final vote.

  • Stoney

    Absolute shocker. They couldn’t have got that any more wrong with Donel if they tried. Couldn’t have been the plan A.

    • Tom

      Could they have given up on Donel if his semi vote was bad?

      But it makes no sense… He came second…

      Commiserations. No one saw that coming.

      • Stoney

        After a perfect year last year this has started off disastrous. The semi votes will be interesting. They didn’t do 1 single thing to help Donel tonight. I dont get it.

  • Tom

    Commiserations to Stoney. Well done Will…

  • Stoney

    Just seen the voting stats. Donel beat Ruti in the semi, and was leading her in the final. All I can think is they wanted Ruti to win in the final. Because with a different running order and song choices he had it in the bag. Very puzzling.

    • Tom

      I’m just puzzled that she took that decent sized lead after the freeze. You had 2 seconds to vote for her after her final song…

      Perhaps they expected Donel to have a gigantic lead in the semi. Still confused.

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