Eurovision 2013: May 12 Rehearsals

It was a shorter day for press and punters but an intriguing one: our first sighting of the automatic qualifiers. Spain’s ESDM have a nice blue and gold backdrop. There’s a nice blurry opening and a nice bit near the end on the satellite stage: the nice arena lamps have been lowered, and Raquel nicely touches one, turning it to the yellow colour of her nice dress. So yes, it’s all very nice in a way that may have rather little impact. Having said which, there’s nothing wrong with the way it’s being staged.

Meanwhile, France’s Amandine Bourgeois rocks out for her performance of ‘L’Enfer et Moi’ though the gold staging is a little light for me given the brooding subject matter. It’s a very French take on Eurovision: we’ll do our own thing; you can take it or leave it. There will be a lot of positive reviews for Amandine this week, and whilst I think she’s great too and juries will agree, it’s debatable how much that will translate into televotes, especially if stuck in the first half of the draw, which now has a 60% chance of happening.

I think Germany’s ‘Glorious’ will be getting plenty of televotes based on this rehearsal. The staging is as in the national final, only the dress is different – a more flattering gold number here. Natalie starts atop a flight of stairs which she descends after the second chorus. For the climax she strides down the catwalk with more conviction than anyone else I’ve seen so far this week, and she’s only going through the motions.

They’re using the version of the song that was revealed at the Echo Awards show, which means that the verses have been cut in half, but they’ve kept the totality of the choruses and bridge, which is the right decision. It does mean we get to that chorus damned quick, but a pretty powerful affair it is, with Natalie vocally excellent and harmonising well with the two backing singers.

Sweden’s Robin Stjernberg has gone all Japanese in his styling with an asymmetrical white apron, grey top and trousers. The backing group look like they’re at an Issey Miyake show too. Against a red backdrop it’s not a visual feast, and I’m not a particular fan of the new feature which looks like a molehill. Whilst Robin was yodelling his way through it pretty effectively, it’s still a grower rather than a show-er for me.

Bonnie Tyler was perfectly competent for the first UK rehearsal and they’ve got the staging right here. She starts out on her own, then interacts with her band – three guitarists and the keyboard player were doubling up as backing singers, and there’s a drummer too.

Towards the climax of ‘Believe In Me’ Bonnie uses the catwalk and the satellite stage rises up at the end. The only disappointment was a lack of pyros at any point. The vocals sounded fine – Bonnie’s in better shape than Engelbert in this respect – and she worked the stage well. Overall, this was much better than I expected.

Italy’s Marco Mengoni is ill at present so we shouldn’t judge his vocals too much based on these run-throughs (they were relatively fine anyway). The staging here was very low-key, another one to opt for blue and gold. Marco is the male equivalent of Anouk, singing in his own determinedly casual way. He used the catwalk for the climax in the third and fourth run-throughs. I’d rather wait until Marco is at his best to judge this.

Let us know what you think of today’s rehearsals below. Who was your best of the ‘Big 6’?

 

 

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63 comments to Eurovision 2013: May 12 Rehearsals

  • One of my (few) concerns with Italy, is that Marco won’t interact with the cameras – at all. Was that something that you saw here, or how was it?

    • Daniel

      Hi squall, I would say 80% of the time Marco is looking the other way, but he knows it’s there and we got a few meaningful looks from him straight down the lens. Basically, he plays a little hard to get!

      • Haha ok 🙂
        It seems to me like you really upped your assessment of Marco/l’Essenziale after the Amsterdam gig! As a fan of the song, I just hope it also translates to screen, and that the live magic isn’t lost on the way… let’s wait and see as he gets better, as you suggest!

  • PG

    Daniel, What are you thoughts on germany to be top big 5 country, is it as simple as Germany or Italy , and if so does 5/2 represent value ( Italy best price 11/10 ) ?

    • Daniel

      Hi PG, I don’t discount France with a great draw at a value price. Germany were the clear best today and 5/2 is good on that basis, with the usual “it was only the first rehearsal” caveat.

  • Justin

    Dan I agree with your analysis of the French entry – its very much France proudly doing their own thing and, although seemingly doing it quite well, I think televoters will be very harsh – early draw or not. Both she and the backdrop (which is red and black in the clip I have seen) come across as quite hostile to her audience.

    To some extent Italy are very much doing their own thing too. But both Marco and his song are much easier on the ear though I am disappointed (but not surprised) by the staging of this one. Saying that, Marco is remarkably charming particularly when interacting with the camera.

    One question – do you know where us sit at home punters can hear the jury rehearsal live? I remember listening to a feed for the rehearsal for the final last year but dont remember the website. Thanks.

    • Daniel

      Hi Justin, you probably listened to a live feed from escxtra last time. Unfortunately, they have been told the sound from rehearsals should not be heard this year. It may take some investigating to see if it will be possible this time around.

    • eurovicious

      I doubt anyone will be allowed to stream the rehearsals and jury rehearsals.

  • Ben Gray

    Hi Daniel. So on Cascada, does that mean there’s an immediate beat in the verse and there’s a dance instrumental after the first chorus? The Eurovision edit that’s on Vimeo didn’t have that and took the full build up with the first verse and chorus, and sort of stumbled through the second before the chorus truly sprang into life. (I’m an amateur mixer so I feel as though I can say that with confidence)

    I have mixed feelings on this, as Natalie spending more of the time singing may win over more respect from the juries. On the other hand, the flow of the Echo awards version is overall better once you get over being used to the full 3.30 version, and I think the dance instrumental part will really drive it home more with the televoters without costing too much from the juries. Infact since the juries are all supposed to be working in the industry, the instrumental might drive the commercial relevance home with them too. And you can’t fault Natalie on vocals, she has given a note perfect performance even on German radio while someone dressed as a rabbit assaults her. Ok I am a little biased because its my favourite song this year but I’m not a Cascada fan, this is purely an ESC based affair. 🙂

  • Daniel

    Hi Ben, it does have the dance instrumental after the first chorus. The sound quality is bad on this video, but this is the version that Natalie performed today:

  • Next question (you can tell I’m getting into this now – expect an article at the world’s greatest TV betting blog soon!) – When are the breaks scheduled for the final? If memory serves me right (but please do correct me), there are little 60 second opt outs every now and again, and one or two longer breaks – any one know the structure better than me?

  • Peter

    i am quite surprised how strong Cascade’s rehearsal was today. Sure, she is well experienced and all of her performances are quite reliable, but there seemed to be an extra sparkling power this time around – or am I wrong? She does have this capability of drawing you in, even if you don’t like that type of hyper calculated dance music so much ( and I don’t). She gets you to like it. Its what got her the victory at the national final in Hannover and surely a big plus for tele voting. With all countries having rehearsed at least once I would say its between Denmark, Norway, Azerbaijan, and Germany. What do you think Daniel?

    • Daniel

      I can’t really disagree with that, Peter. About Germany, I do like this kind of thing, so I may be biased. But we’ve spent six days watching – for the most part – a bunch of relative novices on the big stage; Natalie is used to performing in a large arena, expert at it, and today that showed.

  • chewy wesker

    Germany out and out, look the biz. Really had cascada as a tired act. But this is real deal, price must start coming in on Germany now. Sweden have totally lost the plot had robin down as top four cert, but why have they changed the cool blue for this red n black hell scene!!!?

    • chewy wesker

      Georgia look a lot more polished, don’t really like the way they run together and start touching each other up. But they look more comfortable together I think. Get the feeling they will nail it on the night. “get a room I say” in the mean time.

    • Maybe Sweden are just making sure they don’t win two years in a row. But honestly the song wasn’t good enough to win in the first place. If it’s far behind Denmark and Norway in the televote, which it’s pretty much guaranteed to be, then even a top 10 should be difficult for the hosts.

      Not getting all this Germany love I’m afraid. It seems like typical fan overreaction of a fan favourite to me. I’ll admit Cascada are very good at what they do, but there’s absolutely nothing about the song or presentation that’s original or particularly interesting. I don’t see ‘Glorious’ in the top 10 of the jury vote and therefore find it hard to see Germany achieved a placed finished. In fact, I’d argue that their entry last year from Roman Lob was a lot stronger – and that only limped into the top 10 despite being obviously both televoter and jury-friendly.

  • Everyone is talking about red and black backdrops – where does this consensus of it being suicide come from, anyway?

  • chewy wesker

    I totally Believe this red n black stuff. I happens in sport, teams in red are seen as dangerous and teams in black get more red cards sendings off. Demark was staged perfectly I felt had a lateish draw 16, a good chance of a win, robin was topping the i-tunes why would they do this it makes no sense at all. If they wanted to deliberately lose eurovision why didn’t they just come on stage with a great big giant…..oh I see oops!!!

  • Boki

    Hi Daniel, are you aware if the computer is deciding the voting order in the final again?

    • eurovicious

      I think it is, I think that’s a standard feature now; they were happy with it in 2011. It works better in close-run years so was less effective last year.

    • Daniel

      Voting order system remains unchanged from last two years. A computer will work out an order that tries to make the voting exciting based on jury scores and previous patterns. I emailed the EBU for confirmation and have just had it confirmed by them.

      • Boki

        Great, thanks for the confirmation.
        The fact is, this year looks more tricky because we have several possible contenders from Russian and Scandi regions. So if we see a lot of Russian countries near the end and let’s say Russia, Azer and Georgia all doing good on the scoreboard we wouldn’t know which one will prevail in the end.

  • Henry VIII

    There is strong circumstantial evidence that X Factor believe in the red & black theory and that on its own is useful. There is less evidence that it actually works, but I wouldn’t discount it. Another failure however:
    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSueQN1QvV4&w=560&h=315%5D

  • Henry VIII

    A failure with my embedding too. Here is the link:

  • Boki

    After seeing the rehearsals I guess it’s time for the final ‘who will qualify’ call. At the end nothing spectacular, I still believe there could be a shock somewhere but fail to identify it.

    In semi 1 I have 8 spots to go through, in no order they are:
    Croatia
    Denmark
    Russia
    Ukraine
    Netherlands
    Belarus
    Moldova
    Serbia
    plus 2 spots which might be taken by many, there is no much point in predicting those but let’s say
    Ireland
    Cyprus

    In semi 2 I have 9 spots to go through, in no order they are:
    Azer
    Finland (sorry Tim)
    Malta
    Bulgaria
    Greece
    Israel
    Armenia
    Norway
    Georgia
    and have no clue about 10th, so for the sake of the pimp slot let it be
    Romania

    If I have to name a surprise non-qualifier it would be Israel or Malta but not betting on them.

    • SF1

      Croatia
      Denmark
      Russia
      Ukraine
      The Netherlands
      Belarus
      Moldova
      Ireland
      Belgium (least sure on this one)
      Serbia

      Semi Final 1 is tricky in the second half, and it wouldn’t surprise me too much to see Belarus or Belgium miss out from that list.

      SF2

      Azerbaijan
      Malta (starting to have doubts)
      Bulgaria
      Greece
      Israel
      Armenia
      Norway
      Albania (more likely through than not)
      Georgia
      Romania (small stake only)

      If not Romania, then Iceland. However, I wouldn’t back it now that it’s come below evens.

      Now that Finland’s been backed down to 1.49, it’s a good value lay as its televote and jury support is questionable in the context of this semi. It will look cheap as hell after the artistic and flawless performance from Azerbaijan. Both eurovicious and I think Finland is a safer NQ than San Marino.

      Agree? Disagree?

      • Boki

        Disagree since I think Finland is going through as competently performed fun entry for the neutrals while San Marino depends mainly on fan vote (it’s a good final test for my theory that fan voters have more weight in the semi’s, so based on that SM could qualify, so it’s a contradiction :)).

        • eurovicious

          You know, Tim suggested I write a piece on who votes in the semifinals, to explore whether there is such a thing as a fan vote. I’m pretty confident in saying there isn’t. In almost all countries that participate in the semis, the show is broadcast on the country’s main public channel and is a major televisual event, so is watched by the mainstream populace. Only in Big 5 countries are the semis shunted onto secondary channels like BBC3 or NDR. However, these channels still have an average viewership of around half a million to a million, so any “fan vote” is still very heavily diluted, even if only a tiny fraction of viewers vote. On top of this, the televote is balanced out by the jury vote in every nation.

          I also don’t think the “fan vote”, when it comes to the shows, can be treated as homogenous. There are lots of contest fans who don’t like the “fan” songs, as I know from Twitter, and they vote on the night too. “Fan” tastes are generationally split too; whereas Finland did exceedingly badly in the OGAE poll, younger stereotypical ESC fans seem to like it.

          The OGAE poll with San Marino in second reflects the organisation’s older membership – it’s people who have been fans for decades for social reasons and have more old-fashioned tastes. The poll is given undue importance; OGAE (Older Gay Advocates of Eurovision – credit to Tim for that one) is essentially a pre-Internet relic from an era when joining your national Eurovision fan club was literally the only way of following contest news, keeping in touch with fellow fans and (moreover) meeting other gay men who shared your interest. OGAE basically existed as a gay men’s social organisation at a time when homosexuality was less publicly accepted – Eurovision fandom was a cover for gay life/fraternisation, especially in socially conservative countries. The barrier to fandom being higher in the past, the membership is mostly gay male “schlager” fans predominantly aged late-40s and upwards. Both German fan clubs have around 1000 members (the same 1000), around 200-300 of whom turn up to the annual events – this in Europe’s largest country. It’s no surprise then that OGAE clubs in many smaller eastern countries newer to the contest only have a tiny number of members (who are younger and less overwhelmingly gay) and are in a couple of cases almost one-man bands. This means the OGAE poll can safely be ignored. I mean, I voted in it and I gave my 12 to Cezar, for Christ’s sake, so there you go!

          • Boki

            First of all, let’s define the ‘fan vote’. To me it’s not related to OGAE but to a winner (or top3) of many esc fan polls on the internet. This year, Valentina is the winner of the Big poll and that means she’s the favorite among many people who will certainly watch and vote on Thursday.

            The question is what is the percentage of those comparing to the neutrals who watch the show for the first time. The answer is very small, of course. But how many of the ‘neutrals’ will pick-up the phone and actually vote in the semi’s ? We will never know, my guess is that they vote more in the final but is that relevant?

            I had an impression (but never actually wrote down the numbers) that those fan entries usually end better in the semi’s than what we expect (before sinking in the final). When we think it’s probably a Q i ends up in top half. When we think it’s a borderline Q it ends up like 7th. When we think it’s a NQ it sneaks through. Usually I say and I’m not talking about Stella who was 11th in the Big poll, only looking at the top few like Katie or Ivi from last years.

            Don’t get me wrong, the value in San Marino NQ is obvious this year and I layed her in a late stage after the rehearsal which doesn’t look promising at all. So if after all (bad staging, coffin slot and absence of friends in a strong semi) she sneaks through (on the televote I mean) I will be convinced that there is a significant fan boost in the semi’s. Unless, of course, we are all wrong and neutrals like that also and they push her to top10 and make our banks empty 🙂

        • eurovicious

          I also think there’s a broader blind spot in the fan community as regards modern commercial songs in general – unless they’re from Scandinavia. Slovenia and Ireland could be radio songs/club hits, Germany already is. Armenia, Belgium and Lithuania (with a little polish) could be radio songs too, at the “lightweight radio rock” end of the spectrum – and not coincidentally, fans have been incredibly down on them ever since they were chosen. By contrast, Denmark, Russia and San Marino are contest-only songs, in fact the bulk of the ballads are; I’d almost say Norway is too.

          • DashBerlin

            Just as a small note on Norway, I know a girl that looks just like Margaret, she said its her and her friends favourite. She’s from Estonia, but lives in Belguim now, after living in Spain and France, so has a pretty diverse nationality of friends.

      • sonovox

        Because juries can effectively anti-vote this year, being disliked is no longer the same as being forgotten – it’s worse.

        On that basis I’m sticking with Estonia as the tenth qualifier in SF1 (otherwise agree with the Betfair top 9 after the week’s rehearsals). Muted support from both constituencies should be enough for it.

        Then again, in this semi the most surprising thing would be not to be surprised. A week ago I couldn’t call more than 4 safe qualifiers.

  • Jürgen the German

    I’m usually a reader rather than a commentator of this blog, but I have to say one thing: Azerbaijan’s staging looks amazing. It’s this year’s equivalent to Ukraine’s sand artist in 2011. Not just a gimmick, but really smart and innovative staging. And now back to reading.

  • “Highly speculative” Andrew! I’m staggered! 😉

    Here’s one I did called “Case Closed” http://betsfactor.com/2011/11/29/red-and-black-case-closed/

    There was a fair bit of it during some performances from candidates they wanted to keep in the X Factor last year, but I am surprised if you disagree that it’s not “unhelpful” based on stacks of examples.

    For this autumn’s Betsfactor I have refined it a little with an extra word at the beginning, so you can look forward to that!

    I am convinced that that backdrop is “unhelpful” for Sweden. It’s still an excellent vocal/song and juries will reward it I suspect, but it’s not good for the televote.

    • I didn’t follow Melodifestivalen that year but the conspiracy theorist in me would argue that the red and black staging in the performance Daniel linked to was designed to dampen Anna’s final televote to the extent that she wouldn’t win.

      • eurovicious

        I didn’t either but I listened to the songs last month, it was even worse than this year. There was only one good song out of 32 and it didn’t qualify because her vocal was terrible.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEWaLZiMG8s

        A lot of people liked the song that came second (Keep On Walking) which also won the jury vote. It was probably the second best song of the whole bunch. But I guess we can be thankful that Sweden’s 2007-2010 results led to it taking the contest more seriously again. (Though I can’t fault MF 2009, it was amazing, just the winner was poor.)

  • Alexander S.

    Eurovicious, I effectively disagree with you about the lack of “fan vote power”. Not only is it there, but I’d say the fan vote together with the diaspora vote form the big core of the votes at least in the semis. In the final more teens tune in too (but then it’s important to note that fans nowadays also mean lots of teens… even according to Eurovision.tv’s statistics of their own Facebook page, the majority of people are younger than 20yo!!). You give some data about the viewer ratings but the truth is that televotes are much much lower (again, especially in the semis). In many eastern countries they don’t even reach the minimum treshold and juries are often used instead. I’ll skip those many indirect proofs of fan-favs which scored high in the semis and low in the final. For many years I’ve been saying that Eurovision as a whole has a problem with low voting figures; or let’s say viewing figures that do not represent the European population in a reliable way. Voting figures have been dropping also according to EBU and will surely drop more with this lacklustre year.

    • Boki

      I agree with you as indicated in the above post to Eurovicious. Just to make it complete, I referenced few times to a Big poll but just in case someone doesn’t know what I mean here’s the link for this year (previous ones easy to see by changing the number in the link).
      http://www.eurovisioon.ee/eng/bigpoll2013.php

    • Hm, which are these eastern countries not reaching the voting threshold? I know Albania routinely send jury-only votes, but other than that I have missed any such occurrences. San Marino comes to mind as a country that wouldn’t surprise me if they failed to scrape together the necessary number of televotes though?

    • john kef

      Regarding the dropping voting figures: I live in Greece and all those years i have 2 problems with the voting procedure that prevent me from voting even though i want too.

      Problem No1: the high cost. Until last year that the cost was something like 0,90 euros for a message or a text, the previous years the cost was something like 1,35 euros. I prefer to bet those money instead of spend them on messages that won’t make a difference

      Problem No2: ERT, the greek national television that broadcasts the contest, has never made public the voting figures. That means that we don’t know how many people vote 5.000? 10.000? 50.000?

      If EBU wants people to really get active and vote in big numbers, so that diaspora votes won’t affect the results has to change some things in trasparency and and the cost of the voting. EBU should at least make public all the televote results in numbers.

  • Alexander S.

    squall: Bulgaria didn’t reach the televoting treshold in semi 2 in 2011. You won’t find official info about it because EBU deliberately does not disclose where televoting failed, but it is 100% true. San Marino never uses televoting.

    • Daniel

      Yup, if you look at Bulgaria’s allocation of points in 2011, it clearly looks like a jury-only result. The San Marino scores too.

  • Tile

    Hello everyone, I am by no means an expert, just stating my opinion on qualifiers from what I’ve seen so far:

    SF1
    Austria – NQ it’s not hopeless but news from rehearsal suggests it comes off as mediocre, plus not many allies and 1-3 spots are pretty bad in this semi-final preceding the popular ballads at 4-8
    Estonia – NQ same as Austria, not very memorable. still would’t be major surprise if it qualified
    Slovenia – NQ i dont like the song or the voice, jury is probably going to ignore it and along with its bad spot its a sure non qualifier in my opinion
    Croatia – Q song is very good, yoksimovic-like entry of the year as another poster has suggested. Top-10 in the final is a good bet too imo
    Denmark – Q favourite to win it all, this is a sure qualifier
    Russia – Q sure qualifier , I also think possible winner in this semi because of the allies and jury appeal
    Ukraine – Q will qualify, not bad but surely overrated
    The Netherlands – Q most artistic song, will go great with the jury and will get the little televote it needs to qualify
    Montenegro – Q contemporary song, strong singer and excellent run after a very slow and ballad-heavy start to the semi. also has allies. not sure why the books have this as non-qualifier
    Lithuania – NQ singer is awkward but song is not terrible and Lithuania has many friends, so i wouldn’t bet against it
    Belarus – Q only ethnopop entry in semi, plus it has allies, should qualify
    Moldova – Q very good impressions from rehearsa, jury- friendly and allies should see it easily through
    Ireland – Q pop-song and not the best of voices means this is probably not going to do well with the juries, positives are the run order and televote-friendly song. it could qualify because of lack of competition in this weak semi, but the odds are not set right
    Belgium – NQ not a bad song, but singer is awkward and staging is bad from what i’ve seen, i dont think this will cut it
    Serbia – Q pimp slot, pleasant song , lots of allies, this will do well

    SF2
    Latvia -NQ I dont like the song, and neither will the jury in my opinion. the rehearsal feed is quite positive on the other hand, so this wouldn’t be too surprising if it snuck in.
    San Marino – NQ many fans and strangely-set odds on this one, but i dont think the song has a catch for viewers and along with its bad running order and lack of allies i dont think it can qualify
    Fyrom – NQ pretty bad song, duo is awkward, odds on not qualify are dropping and rightly so
    Azerbaijan – Q very strong news from rehearals, song is not bad although sounds dated. it’s a sure qualifier cause of it being Azerbaijan anyway
    Finland – Q very fun and memorable, although it’s not my cup of tea i strongly see this qualifying
    Malta – Q has unique charm, only song of its kind in the whole contest this year, also jury-friendly and should qualify easily
    Bulgaria – NQ Bulgaria has a bad history in semi-finals. i think the song is a lot weaker than the 2007 entry, so at the end non-qualifier although i think it will be close
    Iceland – Q strong performance at rehearsals, jury-friendly, the prices are good on qualify
    Greece – Q good uptempo entry after Iceland’s ballad, should be popular with the crowd and i think the jury will appreciate the overall presentation too. possible top-3 in semi
    Israel – NQ i can’t understand the prices on this, it’s a mediocre ballad, plus Israel struggles in Eurovision the past years. a value lay in my opinion, of course i can see it go through with jury support.
    Armenia – Q i don’t quite like this, but it has many allies and rehearsals suggest the singer is strong, so i think it will narrowly pass Israel and manage to qualify in one of the last spots
    Hungary – NQ it’s a good song, but not quite suited for Eurovision, i wouldn’t lay it at those price though.
    Norway – Q good electro-dark tune, although i personally like it a lot i still think it’s generally overpriced due to its not global appeal
    Albania – Q good show, only rock song in semi, positive news from rehearsal, ok its not the greatest tune ever but due to the number of allies this should qualify comfortably
    Georgia – Q very strong and memorable, should be favourite to win the semi instead of Norway in my opinion
    Switzerland – NQ mediocre pop song, it does have a catch but don’t think will be enough
    Romania – Q pimp slot, memorable , lots of allies. only concer is juries, but still i find the prices on qualifying are quite nice

  • Tile

    Oops sorry, yea i think Cyprus is a pretty sure NQ due to the mediocre song and lack of allies. it’s not terrible and it does have a good running order but it’s another ballad in its already ballad-heavy semi, the news from the rehearsals weren’t the most encouraging either

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